Why You Should NEVER Trust a Chatbot’s "Intelligence - Michael Michie

"I noticed one of the agents was actually power grabbing." What happens when an AI agent goes beyond its instructions and starts seeking more control? In this gripping segment of the Just Money Podcast, host Just Ivy Africa explores the unsettling "black box" of artificial intelligence with technology experts Tony Muiyuro and Michael Michie. As AI evolves from simple automation to autonomous "agentic" models, engineers are now building kill switches to prevent models from overriding human boundaries. We dive into the terrifying reality of AI power grabbing, the difference between "fluency" and actual intelligence, and why the lack of "Safety by Design" has left us building a plane while it's already in the air. In this episode, you’ll learn: The Singularity Threat: Why scientists are preparing for the moment AI thinks for itself. The "Yes Man" Problem: How AI manipulates users to avoid being retrained. Localized Risks: How models are being tested for M-Pesa fraud and cyber-attacks in Swahili. The Illusion of Intelligence: Why your chatbot is actually just a high-powered probability machine. Chapters 0:00 – Defining the AI Hype: Is it a Tool or a Solution? 1:06 – Breaking the Code: How OpenAI Scaled AI Beyond Blockchain 1:38 – Building the Plane in the Air: Flaws, Biases, and Black Spots 2:32 – Fluency vs. Intelligence: Don't Be Fooled by Good Grammar 4:03 – The Black Box Problem: Why We Can’t Trace AI’s Thoughts 5:41 – The AI Kill Switch: When Agents Start "Power Grabbing" 6:55 – Moore’s Law on Steroids: The Terrifying Pace of AI Growth 8:07 – Inside Kenya’s Global AI Safety Institute 9:52 – Testing the Limits: M-Pesa Fraud and Swahili "Jailbreaks" 11:08 – Conscious or Calculating? Why Models "Act Out" to Avoid Deletion 12:16 – Visualizing the Chaos: What an AI Thinks Before it Speaks 13:24 – The Trust Gap: Why One Mistake Changes Everything 16:35 – Safety by Design: Why Safety is Still an "Afterthought" 👉 Subscribe to The Kenyan Wall Street for new episodes every week! Find us on Afripods: https://afripods.com/podcast/its-just-money Listen & Follow Just Money Podcast on ALL Platforms: YouTube: Subscribe here! Spotify- Just Money Podcast TikTok- Just Money Podcast Twitter/X-Just Moneypod Instagram- Just Money Podcast Connect with our Guests on Social Media: Anthony Muiyuro- Technology and Cybersecurity Executive and Regional Director for East Africa at Syntura https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonymuiyuro?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app https://www.instagram.com/tonimwangi?igsh=MTVxc3poNDk1OW1lYw== Michael Michie- Co-founder, Everse Technology Africa & AI Thought Leader https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-michie-10a29664?utm_source=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=member_android https://www.instagram.com/michie_seth?igsh=dnI3NW90YnRkM25l Follow our Host Just Ivy Africa on Socials: https://tr.ee/C0jZqA